tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8233207434448612511.post9169930966367896279..comments2023-12-20T08:32:41.349-05:00Comments on QueerCincinnati.com: POLITICS/GAY STUFF: LGB -T-?Barry Floorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10955883796568321038noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8233207434448612511.post-6360069680346914492008-02-14T02:24:00.001-05:002008-02-14T02:24:00.001-05:00PS The blog may be posted tomrow as I have to asse...PS The blog may be posted tomrow as I have to assemble dates and names and numbers and such, so give me a day or so.Barry Floorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10955883796568321038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8233207434448612511.post-71859437765826225812008-02-14T02:24:00.000-05:002008-02-14T02:24:00.000-05:00First off, I would hope that the T would be includ...First off, I would hope that the T would be included. That is the ideal situation -- please don't misunderstand me. I love and respect my trans-identified brethren -- I think yours is the fight ahead. <BR/><BR/>HOWEVER, the bill still helps some of us, and I think it is possible that if we move forward with it, then we will, ultimately, be more easily able to pass a trans-inclusive bill under a more understanding administration. (Getting the ENDA passed under the Bush admin is gonna be hard enough without the trans-inclusion.)<BR/><BR/>SO: I'll issue a challenge to you, my darling: <BR/><BR/>My next blog (I just posted one about the Texas ban being overturned) will be about supporting ENDA and calling your legislator. And this will be our pitch: "We support ENDA (HR2015), but we also support trans-inclusion, and request that the Baldwin Amendment be reconsidered in the legislation." <BR/><BR/>And we'll ask people to post dates and times that they called and who they called.<BR/><BR/>Would you be ready to support in that way?Barry Floorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10955883796568321038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8233207434448612511.post-39411065523340480252008-02-13T06:42:00.000-05:002008-02-13T06:42:00.000-05:00As everyone agrees, this bill has about a zero per...As everyone agrees, this bill has about a zero percent chance of actually becoming law under the current administration. If this is to be a symbolic vote, why not have it be the best one it can be?<BR/><BR/>So, tell me, how how much lobbying have you done for any version of ENDA (especially an all-inclusive one)? The trans community has been doing just that for years. In fact, I have trudged up there myself. Written letters. Made calls. Unless you have been there too, please, your arguments do not hold any weight.<BR/><BR/>Once a group has been added to a bill then left out is is *hugely* more difficult to add them back in. Incrementalism is also rarely (if ever) a successful political strategy.<BR/><BR/>The facts are simple and well-documented. Joe said the HRC would oppose any legislation that was not fully inclusive to 1,000 witnesses (and many more after the fact since it was videotaped). The going got tough towards the end (as it would for pretty much any bill, especially those that do not benefit the mainstream). Rather than flex it's political muscle as Joe said the HRC would they took the easier path. Do you care to dispute any of those statements?Karahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16763927765706552012noreply@blogger.com